tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563972443080081407.post6206012625319468838..comments2023-07-25T09:05:24.908-07:00Comments on Musicology / Matters: Expanding the Musicology Ph.D.PMGhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14859373169517442483noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563972443080081407.post-56162992919702624872010-01-19T21:08:26.765-08:002010-01-19T21:08:26.765-08:00I agree that creating full-fledged certificate pro...I agree that creating full-fledged certificate programs is a steep step, especially these days. Joint enrollment is a possibility, but it's tough to imagine a lot of people taking that route--having watched people attempt what should be the fairly reasonable goal of doing joint musicology-performance degrees, I know it's no easy task, and at the very least requires one to enter graduate school with that goal in mind, or to realize it soon.<br /><br />A more intermediate step could be at least an occasional graduate seminar on a pertinent subject, or even a process by which one could earn credit towards the degree through an internship or something.<br /><br />And of course, the easiest step is to hope that more musicologists who train graduate students retain an open mind about what constitutes success after graduation! Oh wait, that might not be the easiest step...<br /><br />And Bob, I have a solution for the next big AMS party that only costs $17.21 a pop. One word: Twister.PMGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14859373169517442483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563972443080081407.post-92212597880612484682010-01-18T04:37:25.457-08:002010-01-18T04:37:25.457-08:00Just thinking aloud here... I agree w/ KG that the...Just thinking aloud here... I agree w/ KG that the best answer is going to be making it easy to get additional credentials [that already exist]. It seems asking too much to ask institutions to come up with yet more credentialing programs / certificates. If you want to try for a library or archive job, aren't you going to need an MLS? If you want to get a job as a film historian/researcher, isn't your specific CV going to be key [i.e. what research you've done]? If you want to get a job in labor organizing, isn't your organizational ability [as demonstrated in cv] going to be the key? In medicine they have the MD/PhD track for those who want to be ready for both clinical and research; maybe something equivalent for the humanities would be useful.<br /><br />(Aside, re party: the problem is nothing that a certain quantity of money cannot solve[!]. What academic society has the best "big party"? I'll ask them for a consultation!)Bob Juddhttp://www.ams-net.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7563972443080081407.post-64882112010646639582010-01-15T06:11:02.520-08:002010-01-15T06:11:02.520-08:00I know of a few grad students in various humanitie...I know of a few grad students in various humanities and science fields who also attended other professional schools while writing their dissertations. These included Public Policy and Law. I understand this much more than I get those who get two separate Ph.Ds. When <a href="http://superbon.net/" rel="nofollow">Jonathan Sterne</a> visited UCLA last spring, I asked him how a humanities Ph.D could go into cultural policy. He advised get an MPP in Cultural Policy. They exist! I guess the moral of the story is to petition your institution to allow you to enroll in two programs if you anticipate going in this direction. I would imagine that if my career went in a certain direction, say <a href="http://www.ams-net.org/forensic-musicology.php" rel="nofollow">forensic musicology</a> or music archivist, additional credentials and training would be really useful.<br />There's a listserv out there for humanities and social science PhDs in search of nonacademic careers called <a href="http://www.h-net.org/announce/show.cgi?ID=130393" rel="nofollow">Work For Us</a>.KGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15607603453415937865noreply@blogger.com